By now everyone has heard that Colin Powell endorsed Obama. Some people say because Obama is black Powell did the right thing. Obama is getting alot of support from the black community but hasn't real done any campaigning in the black community.
What's up with that? And most want to support his socialist ideas?
Do you think Powell will make a difference?
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i don't think the powell endorsement will really mean anything. most dems wrote him off 8 years ago when he was working in the bush administration. Since then he really hasn't done anything or come out on any particular issue. i really think that the only reason he did it is so he can get some kind of position in an obama administration.
as far as obama's support in the black community, i think he takes it for granted. he expects to do well and he most likely will so he doesn't feel the need to campaign in that community.
it is refreshing to see someone else point out that most of his ideas are obviously socialist. while i don't agree with the republican's most of the time i don't think that socialism is the best answer. i wish more people would realize that.
I dont really think it will do much.
Colin Powell's endorsement is more a sign of the state of the GOP, than an act that will garner more votes for the Dem ticket. Powell stated that he was unhappy and bothered by the amount of negativity that GOP was putting forth and felt that the party had gone 'Too far right'.
To say that Obama has not done any campaigning in the black community is a very open ended statement. Every rally he has had has been in an area that allows black people to attend. Seriously though, why put heavy resources in an area that the GOP has already conceeded? Take those resources and divert them to more crucial areas in battle ground states and let your 'grass roots' campaign maintain the areas already in your pocket. That is an area the GOP doesn't seem to understand, they are steadily having appearances and rallies for voters that are already going to vote for them. They are basically whipping their hoard into a foaming at the mouth, wide eyed, crazed mob that has the potential to be a dangerous group if their candidate does not win this election.
Colin Powell gave a mature measured response on why he endorsed Obama on meet the press Saturday. I have to make the man at his word when he said it has nothing to do with race, he said he feels Barak is the right leader at the right time. If it was a race thing why did Powell not endorse Sharpton or Jessie Jackson? Just sayin. Did Lieberman endorse McCain because of his race?
Obama has made outreaches to all community. I've heard him several times on Steve Harvey, Beisden, has visited black churches (and white churches). Obama is NOT Al Sharpton. I think the black community needs to do a better job of becoming apart of the American community. Things that affect our community the most health care, education, and jobs are all the central focus of Obama's campaign.
Socialist is a republican attack buzz word thrown out there to distract the ignorant. By there definition corporate tax baliouts, highway funds,police departments,fire departments,unempolyment insurance, and other civil services could be labled as socialism.
But I guess making health care affordable, rebuilding infrastructue, and creating jobs are socialist ideas.
While we are at it lets just strip the socialist Medicare idea away and let those old bastards fend for themselves.
Good point Ad, all these socialist policies in place now...Lets just make it cut throat and tell folks to get what you can when you can.
i agree with you Josh, Powell's endorsement isn't really going to make a difference. He is looked at like a sell out. He didn't endorse Jesse or Rev Al, I don't know anyone that endorsed those characters.
Homie listen to what your saying he invited black people. He is taking the black vote like it is a given. There are many images displayed of him down in the hood etc. To date he hasn't said or mentioned anything about the working poor and the poor. But if your poor and black and dont vote for him your considered a sell out and not being a part of history !
I have to unfortunately agree his robin hood idea isn't the best. I thing a better plan would be create programs to teach the middle class and poor how to obtain wealth. Just given them extra because of their social or economic status is not fair. Granted the same opportunites may not have been avail. But just handing extras without education is going to create alot more issues. Lets see how many ppl move of the social ladder with him giving the more.
I do agree with making it open and available for everyone. However their has to be an education period for the ones that do know !
I honestly think Powell endorsed Obama to get a job, Let's keep it the politics McCain is playing right now is the same one that has ruled for decades, so now he is so disappointed he was that disappointed when he was running with 'W'
"from each according to his ability to each according to his need"
who does that sound like. to me it sounds a lot like obama's domestic policies. it also happens to be one of the principle tennants of marxist socialism.
when the means of production and distribution of services are controlled by the governemt, thats socialism to me and that is what it seems like obama is trying to make reality.
your right to a degree though, medicare/medicaide, welfare, public education are all ideas that came about due to socialist influence. but of those ideas only public education was designed to be a long term program. Roosvelt's New Deal was not designed as a permanent solution to the problems of the depression. had he lived he most likely would have stopped those programs once the economy recovered. look at what those programs have done, they've helped to create an entitlement driven culture in this country, there are generations of families that are dependant on these programs for survival and because of this can't ever seem to raise themselves above them. add to that mismanagement of those programs by the government and its a total disaster. look at social security. politicians decided to move it the the general fund in the mid-ninties and now its bankrupt. and these are the people you want administering healthcare, fantastic.
and Dakim, your right about being considered a sellout if you don't vote for obama. from my prospective i've been asked if i was a racist because i wasn't supporting him. its as if you can't agree with the man based on his politics, something else must be the reason you don't like him cause he's so damn perfect. it can't be because hes a SOCIALIST.
Dakim-
With all due respect, what in the world are you talking about? are you views formed by the main stream media or do you take time to research the issues on your own?
The only thing Obama has proposed is tax relief for middle class WORKING families who pay a higher percentage of there revenue than the top 2%.
Why is this necessary? Because American people are making on average $2000 less a year than they were making on average under the this administration. Food ,energy , and education are rising. Foreclosure are through the roof depressing everyones home values. People are hurting and need relief.
What you are proposing is self accountability is something that my father taught me and can only be learned in the home. Goverment is not the issue to all the problems but can be a steering hand in times of crisis.
The "robin hood" idea as you proclaimed it to be is actually rolling back the Bush tax cuts to the rates were under the Clinton Admin. If memory serves me correctly the economy did pretty well under Clinton.
If you look at the 8 years under Regan followed by four years of Bush senior there were deep recessions. Trickle down economics just does not work.
Black people have the option to vote for McCain if they feel like Obama is not addressing "their issues" And oh by the way Dakim- since 1968 the black vote has been one of the most reliable voting blocks to the Democratic Party.
I don't understand your thought process on this one at all.
Josh-
I guess Bush is the biggest socialist that has ever lived because his government spending and entitlement programs have balooned the national deficit off the charts.
I don't see Powell as making a political move for his own gains, although he very well may garner a cabinet assignment. If you recall he resigned his position as S.O.S. in the GW Bush administration over differences in opinions between he and the power struction in place (Chaney, Rumsfield, Bush).
As far as Obama not actively campaining for the 'black vote' and taking what is given, why not. Those same voters have a voice and they can demand answers and ask pointed questions to their candidate. To date I do not recall hearing anyone in the black community ask why he isn't campaining in their neighborhoods, or addressing issues pointed directly at them. Until someone asks him about that, he should be until the presumption that those voters are hearing what they want to hear and continue on his current course of action. 'Closed mouth doesn't get fed'
I could have sworn within the last month Obama held rallies at BCC and Hampton University which are both historicaly black colleges.
that is probably true about bush. during his first term he wasn't so bad but during his second he went completely insane much like the rest of government.
as for that thing about working families paying more of the tax burden than the top 2%. i'm hoping you mistyped. according to national taxpayers union and the Tax Foundation the top 5% of taxpayers pay about 60% of the total AGI. with the top 50% paying about 96%.
heres an interesting graph using numbers from 2004. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0923085.html
Josh-
If you re-read what typed, I said as a percentage of there revenue they pay more.
if they would just implement the fairtax we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
fairtax.org
Huckabee was on to something with the fair tax. I think he would have been a better canidate than McCain. Ron Paul and Huck were the best canidates in the republican field this year in my opinion by far.
possibly but they each had things about them that were just to polarizing. huckabee, being a baptist minister and ron paul beign bat-shit insane. but if the left can elect an extremist i guess the right should have also.
i think Bob Barr has the fairtax in his platform. to bad he has a less than zero chance of being elected.
lol
Ron Paul is the Kuncinich of the right. I think Obama if elected well govern more centerist than you think.
The problem with McCain outside for being a POW he does not really stand for anything.
I think Powell said publicaly what a lot of republicans are saying behind closed doors. The republican party has been hijacked by the fanatical hard right. Thats why you have prominent Republicans like George Will speaking out against McCain. Even Eisenhauers grand daughter and Chuck Hagel's wife all staunch republicans are in the Obama camp.
Hagel, Powell, Dick Lugar im sure will all be Obama's short list when picking a cabinent.
i think your right about that but i think its true for both parties. the right is fairly beholden to the far right but at the same time the far left is in the driver seat for the democrats.
i really hope that if obama is elected he governs in a more centrist position. the radical left is way to devisive and i don't think will be tolerate by mainstream america which is usually a little right of center.
i don't really agree about mccain, he has made his position known on a number of issues. i believe that he needs to stop with the whole POW thing, i think everyone got that, he needs to concentrate on the issues. i think on the main issues hes been pretty constant with his position.
as for Colin Powell. i would really like to see him play a role in whichever administration takes power in January. hes very smart and has tons of experience. it really would have been ideal if he had run for office this year. i know he'd have my vote.
To my surprise, Barack was speaking at, I believe, Jackson State Univerisity (HBCU) on 3/10/08. Which is the day that I arrived in Madison, MS. I watched the live internet. I guess if he was seen in the middle of the hood, that would have sufficed, huh? Blacks may be concentrated in certain areas of town...but we are everywhere...from the DEC to Alpharetta.
When BET took it to the streets I ain't see no one from those urban areas talkin bout Barack ain't come chat with them on their block.
Colin Powell cleared up why he was supporting Obama...what an endorsement! LOVED IT! As far as him making a difference, I don't think it should because by now, everyone should know who they want to vote for based on who the candidates are and what they stand for, regardless of who jumps on board.
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