First of all I want to talk about the men today.
I need to understand why men( not all but we are talking about men from ATL) dont know how to take the lead and know how to treat a lady these days.
I was talking with one of my friends the other day and he made a comment like eva nice they let woman work and make there own money we became equals.
He stated that anything I can do so can she so he doesnt care for the whole men take out the trash women cook, he stated that the role should be equal across the board.
How do you guys feel about that statement?
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I think that is sometimes the womans fault. Guys are frustrated about taking the lead because they have so many independent women out here. I mean there are a lot of us that are the breadwinners in our relationships and we just do for ourselves. Its not like we mean to be dominant but its just our personality. I know I don't clean up my husband does. I don't wash clothes and I don't take out the trash. The only thing I do is cook because he can't. Equal roles do squash either party from feeling neglected or overworked.
Equal across the board...that can be kinda misleading, I don't expect any relationship to be equal, I am content with 60/40. The traditional roles...you can toss that shit out the window. I don't expect someone to cook for me, but if you not gonna cook, you gotta step up somewhere else. Like someone said in a previous thread I accept my role as designated bug killer, trash taker outer, landscaper and bottle opener, but you may have to change that light bulb yourself while I am cutting the grass.
As far as men not knowing how to take the lead, I think its more not wanting to take the lead or in increasing cases, not NEEDING to take the lead. The mindset of 'Why if I don't have to' is what leads to that situation. Throw in the attitude of 'I don't need a man for anything' and you really have the making of a perfect storm.
I think that we have help to create this! WE HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD!!! This didn't happen over night though. However, I don't think its a good excuse for men not to step up. The man should be the head of the household period. He should to the manly things. I also think the women should contribute to this but it should be the males role primarily. You help it each other. We have roles thats just what it is.
How does a women who works mean she doesn't want a man to be the man????
Okay. Foremost are we talking equal rights, opportunities, employment, or just equally sharing the loads of life. I do NOT believe men and women are identical or equivalent to one another, though I do feel we each provide, compensate, and in some situations negatively impact both roles.
Men (most) are leaders and should take time to understand what that role means. It can be freely given, inappropriately deemed, and requires acceptance.
Women (some) are leaders to, but not to the point it should degrade a man’s place or ability to do more then most women. I am speaking only in a physical sense, nothing more.
As men and women we need to realize anybody can do anything. Whether cooking, cleaning, washing, or possibly more strenuous task…whatever the case. We can because we are able to learn and do, which by the way also requires acceptance.
(Dang) I’ll be back to finish my statement…..brb.
I think its just time for women to step back we have taken on this role because the man wouldnt step up or didnt know how to step up.
And its really in the younger group to the point to where its sad.
Like all the songs now talk about I need a woman that has her own and can take me out.
Hell can we get back to the good old days where the man wanted to take care of his woman...
Can you invite me over to the house and cook for me....
I think we are also beginning to see the backlash of the times when it was perceived that when a black man got his he was going to drop the black woman for a white girl. Well, now that black women are getting theirs they are in essence doing the same thing, they are throwing their financial independence in the man's face.
Think about it, we are hearing some of the same complaints. Men were saying that they couldn't find a good woman because all the wanted to do was spend their money and be seen, or they were complaining about XYZ all the time. Now women are saying they can't find a good man, he won't lead, he isn't educated, he doesn't understand money...
The only difference is the women aren't flocking to white men (as the men did to white girls), they are just being alone and complaining about it.
I think that the problem with Atlanta men is that they are too spoiled by the women. We all know the ratio of men to women in Atlanta, that being said .. A lot of the women tend to put up with more in order to secure a man.
I'm sorry .. You gonna work for me .. I am worth it.
Speaking of that ratio, does anyone know how that ratio was figured? Was it just raw sensus data? Did it calculate single women to single men, single women 18+ to single men 18+? I am really just curious of the specifics of that figure.
Oh hell Easy I don't know ..
LOL
how in the hell are we going to get you that information you know we all hated statistics in college boy stop playin!!!
I know no one knows, I was just asking, more of retorical question that one I really thought someone would research and answer.
Well I feel like guys don't necessarily want it to be equal more than wanting a woman to be able to carry her own weight. As long as men are ahead to the point where they feel like they can call the shots they are comfortable. They are not comfortable with equality more than being comfortable with less responsibility, because she can pull her own weight he has less to provide or worry about as far as her needs and wants are concerned.
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